166: Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend (1991)
“When I'm doing music, it's kind of like throwing pottery on the wheel and just losing my mind. This thing comes from somewhere else. It's almost like it's not from me, but I know what to do once it starts coming.”
–Matthew Sweet
Power pop legend Matthew Sweet has had a rough go of it lately, suffering a debilitating stroke last year while setting out on tour, and it’s possible that he may never play music again. So today’s episode is both a bittersweet tribute to his career and a joyous celebration of his music, which is exactly the emotional tightrope that his 1991 cult classic Girlfriend walks from start to finish. Sweet recorded this album during the interim between going through a painful divorce and meeting his now-wife, and while his lyrics aren’t strictly autobiographical, the album’s 15 songs run the gamut from desperate yearning (“Don’t Go,” “You Don’t Love Me”) to pure ebullience (“I’ve Been Waiting,” “Girlfriend”). And it’s all topped off with crisp, direct production that evoked Crazy Horse and the Beatles’ Revolver during a period when many rock albums were soaked in reverb and drained of personality. So kick back as Rich, Phil, and returning guest Libby Cudmore deconstruct and consume an album that’s perfect in so many ways.
Miscellany
Matthew Sweet and this album have yet to be the subject of any biographies or scholarly literature, but these resources were especially helpful in the research for this episode:
Tim Sommer of Rock & Roll Globe conducted an extensive interview with Sweet in 2021 discussing his early history and the inspirations behind several key tracks from Girlfriend.
For a contemporary perspective, Bill Wyman (the journalist, not the Stones bassist) wrote a fascinating feature on the making of Girlfriend for the Chicago Reader in 1992.
Magnet Magazine published an oral history of Girlfriend in 2016 featuring interviews with Sweet, Rick Menck, Lloyd Cole, Fred Maher, and other figures in the album’s orbit.
Spin magazine conducted an interview with Sweet in 2021 looking back on Girlfriend to commemorate the album’s 30th anniversary.
Guitar.com published a feature diving into all of the guitars and gear used throughout Girlfriend, and GuitarPlayer.com has a piece focusing specifically on “Evangeline.”
As mentioned in the episode, Richard Lloyd is a thoughtful, philosophical guitarist with a truly unique perspective on the instrument. He has a series of guitar lessons called The Alchemical Guitarist, snippets of which are available on YouTube, he published an autobiography in 2019 titled Everything Is Combustible, and this interview with TapeOp magazine is also worth reading.
Rich considered Mogwai’s “Stupid Prick Gets Chased by the Police and Loses His Slut Girlfriend" for the “girlfriend” montage, but like so many Mogwai songs, it is a somber instrumental that just happens to have a funny title.
Other links
Support Matthew Sweet’s stroke recovery (GoFundMe)
Matthew Sweet’s merch store (Merchbar)
“Girlfriend” music video (YouTube)
Hear Libby's podcast, The OST Party (Podbean)
Buy Libby's book, Negative Girl (Penguin Random House)
Discord & Rhyme’s Girlfriend playlist (Spotify)
Discord & Rhyme’s merch store (TeePublic)
Discord & Rhyme Roll Call
Rich Bunnell (host)
Phil Maddox (moderator)
Libby Cudmore (special guest)
Mike DeFabio (guest appearance)
Girlfriend tracklist
Divine Intervention
I’ve Been Waiting
Girlfriend
Looking at the Sun
Winona
Evangeline
Day for Night
Thought I Knew You
You Don’t Love Me
I Wanted to Tell You
Don’t Go
Your Sweet Voice
Does She Talk?
Holy War
Nothing Lasts
Other clips used
Matthew Sweet:
What Matters
BBC (Ming Tea)
Sick of Myself
The Ocean In-Between
Southern (The Buzz of Delight)
Catch Your Breath
When I Feel Again
She Said She Said (live)
Good Friend (demo)
Looking at the Sun (demo)
Cortez the Killer (live)
Devil with the Green Eyes
If Time Permits
Towers of London (with Susanna Hoffs)
Where You Get Love
Others:
The Beach Boys - Barnyard
The Beatles - I Feel Fine
Television - See No Evil
Avril Lavigne - Girlfriend
Supertramp - Breakfast in America
Robyn - Call Your Girlfriend
Talking Heads - Girlfriend Is Better
Michael Jackson - Girlfriend
Pet Shop Boys - Bet She's Not Your Girlfriend
The Smiths - Girlfriend in a Coma
Reel Big Fish - She Has a Girlfriend Now
Oingo Boingo - Whole Day Off
Prince - If I Was Your Girlfriend
Ariana Grande - Break Up with Your Girlfriend, I'm Bored
NSYNC - Girlfriend
Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Liars Beware
They Might Be Giants - Sleeping in the Flowers
Big Star - Watch the Sunrise
Better Than Ezra - Cry in the Sun
The Offspring - Staring at the Sun
Beck - Sissyneck
The Beatles - Oh! Darling
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Are You Ready to Be Heartbroken?
Camera Obscura - Lloyd, I'm Ready to Be Heartbroken
Lloyd Cole - No Blue Skies
Tom Waits - Downtown Train
Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach - Toledo
Mariah Carey - Vanishing
The Beach Boys - Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
The Grateful Dead - Attics of My Life
R.E.M. - Welcome to the Occupation
10,000 Maniacs - What's the Matter Here?
Natalie Merchant - Wonder
Iris DeMent - Our Town
Band/album personnel
Matthew Sweet – production, all vocals (1–12, 14), acoustic piano (1), electric rhythm guitar (1–4, 6, 7, 10–14), bass (1–7, 9–14), acoustic rhythm guitar (2–5, 8–11), electric guitar intro (6), acoustic lead guitar (8), electric lead guitar (12), vocals (13, 15, acoustic guitar (15)
Richard Lloyd – electric lead guitar (1, 2, 6), electric rhythm guitar (7)
Robert Quine – electric lead guitar (3–5, 7, 9–11, 13–15), electric rhythm guitar (4)
Lloyd Cole – electric rhythm guitar (4, 11, 12), acoustic rhythm guitar (8), electric tremolo guitar (11)
Greg Leisz – lap steel guitar (3), pedal steel guitar (5, 9, 12)
Ric Menck – drums (1, 2, 4, 11–13)
Fred Maher – production, drums (3, 5–7, 9, 10, 14), acoustic rhythm guitar (13)
Jim Rondinelli – recording, mixing
John Parthum – recording assistant, mix assistant
Dana Vicek – recording assistant, mix assistant
Scott Hull – editing, assembling
Bob Ludwig – mastering
Emily Morrison – project assistant
Credits
“Discord & Rhyme (theme),” composed by the Other Leading Brand, contains elements of:
Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf
Amon Düül II - Dehypnotized Toothpaste
The Dukes of Stratosphear - What in the World?? ...
Faith No More - Midlife Crisis
Herbie Hancock - Hornets
Kraftwerk - Autobahn
Talking Heads - Seen and Not Seen
Matthew Sweet - Divine Intervention (this episode only)
You can buy or stream Girlfriend and other albums by Matthew Sweet by visiting merchbar.com and searching for Matthew Sweet, and you can also find it at your local record store, or the usual suspects such as Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and Amazon. Follow Discord & Rhyme on Instagram @DiscordPod for news, updates, and other random stuff. Editing and production are by Rich Bunnell, and special thanks to our own Mike DeFabio, the Other Leading Brand, for the introduction and theme song. See you next album, and keep as cool as you can.