Discord & Rhyme: An Album Podcast

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157: Midnight Oil - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 (1982)

“I think that a lot of us in [Australia] are scared about sticking our neck out, whether it's in music, or whether it's in some other places. And I think that we just happen to have a certain combination of belligerence, cheek, enthusiasm and passion for what we were doing and what we were saying.”

—Peter Garrett


It’s taken us nearly seven years, but the time has come. Midnight Oil, one of Australia's quintessential bands, is probably best known for its tireless political activism as expressed through hits like "Beds Are Burning" and "Blue Sky Mine," as well as the on-stage acrobatics of their 6′4″ frontman, Peter Garrett. But behind the sloganeering and agitprop, the Oils are a fiendishly creative and charmingly oddball band, and their 1982 Australian breakout album 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, recorded at a make-or-break moment for the group, was when they first really landed on their unmistakable aura. Rich has been an Oils fan literally since he was a teenager, and he’s called in Ben and returning special guest Dave Weigel to deconstruct 10 to 1 and all of the power and the passion that went into these incredible songs. 

Miscellany

  • The following sources provided a good deal of the background info for this episode:

    • The 2024 documentary The Hardest Line is a career-spanning deep dive into the Oils, featuring interviews with every band member. As of the release of this episode, it’s only available to stream in Australia, so U.S. residents will need a VPN, which is a device that fools your ISP into thinking the toilet in your home flushes counterclockwise.

    • Beds Are Burning: Midnight Oil – The Journey, by friend, fan and occasional Midnight Oil employee Mark Dodgson, is a detailed recounting of the Oils’ career from someone who knew the band well, though it suffers from some structural and pacing issues. 

    • Willie’s Bar and Grill is Rob Hirst’s memoir of the band’s bus tour across North America directly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and is an extremely funny travelogue of the band’s experiences in a different kind of outback at a very strange time in history.

    • Sounds Like an Ending by Glen Humphries is an exhaustively researched, track-by-track breakdown of 10 to 1 and Red Sails in the Sunset, providing loads of valuable Australian context that would have otherwise gone right over Rich’s Yankee head.

  • The Maralinga nuclear tests were also the subject of the 1986 song “Maralinga (Rainy Land)” by Paul Kelly and the Coloured Girls. And for the record, Rich does not think that “Maralinga” by the Oils should have been a fun party song, or anything other than what it already is.

  • The Oils and the Wiggles have technically collaborated once, on a pan-Australian project called “EveryOneBand” that included more than 3,000 members, including Peter Garrett and several of the original Wiggles. The collective released one song called “Stand by You” in 2018.

  • This is Dave’s seventh appearance on Discord & Rhyme, and if you’d like to hear him again, he previously joined us to talk about Todd Rundgren, Yes, Pet Shop Boys, the Numero Group power pop compilation Yellow Pills: Prefill, Sparks, and Kylie Minogue

Other links

Discord & Rhyme Roll Call 

  • Rich Bunnell (host)

  • Ben Marlin (moderator)

  • Dave Weigel (special guest)

10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 tracklist 

  1. Outside World

  2. Only the Strong

  3. Short Memory

  4. Read About It

  5. Scream in Blue

  6. US Forces

  7. Power and the Passion

  8. Maralinga

  9. Tin Legs and Tin Mines

  10. Somebody’s Trying to Tell Me Something 

Other clips used 

Midnight Oil:

  • Beds Are Burning

  • Blue Sky Mine

  • Run by Night

  • Stand in Line

  • Wedding Cake Island

  • Don't Wanna Be the One

  • Scream in Blue (live)

  • Dreamworld

  • Lucky Country

  • Warakurna

  • Kosciuszko

  • The Dead Heart

  • Redneck Wonderland

  • Truganini

  • Gravelrash 

Others:

  • The Wiggles - Hot Potato

  • The Beach Boys - Surfin' USA

  • Kate Bush - Sat in Your Lap

  • Todd Rundgren - Love of the Common Man

  • The Wiggles - I Went to the Library

  • Wire - Nice Streets Above

  • The Waterboys - The Big Music

  • Simple Minds - Alive and Kicking

  • Big Country - In a Big Country

  • The Fixx - Stand or Fall

  • The Alarm - Rain in the Summertime

  • U2 - New Year's Day

  • The Chaser - US Bases

  • The Wiggles - Do the Daddy Long Legs

  • Candlebox - Far Behind

  • Prince and the Revolution - Darling Nikki

  • The Go-Betweens - Cattle and Cane

  • The Wiggles - The Fish Starts to Swim

  • The Wiggles - I Count Ten Stairs

Band/album personnel 

  • Peter Garrett – lead vocals

  • Peter Gifford – bass, vocals

  • Rob Hirst – drums, vocals

  • Jim Moginie – guitars, keyboards

  • Martin Rotsey – guitars

  • Gary Barnacle – brass (7)

  • Peter Thoms – brass (7)

  • Luke Tunney – brass (7)

Credits 

“Discord & Rhyme (theme),” composed by the Other Leading Brand, contains elements of: 

  • Duran Duran - Hungry Like the Wolf

  • Amon Düül II - Dehypnotized Toothpaste

  • The Dukes of Stratosphear - What in the World?? ...

  • Faith No More - Midlife Crisis

  • Herbie Hancock - Hornets

  • Kraftwerk - Autobahn

  • Talking Heads - Seen and Not Seen

  • Midnight Oil - Only the Strong (this episode only) 

You can buy or stream 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and other albums by Midnight Oil at your local record store, or the usual suspects such as Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and Amazon. Follow Discord & Rhyme on Instagram, Threads, and BlueSky @DiscordPod for news, updates, and other random stuff. Editing and production are by Rich Bunnell, and special thanks to our own Mike DeFabio, the Other Leading Brand, for our amazing theme song. See you next album, and keep as cool as you can.


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